May 8, 2007
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Angry Asian Men
Mike Kang (“West 32nd“), Ken Leung (“Shanghai Kiss“, “X2“, “The Sopranos“) and I took part in an interview (also see below) for The SF Gate about the age-old question on an artist’s responsibility in depicting violence on screen — especially in regards to the Asian Community in the recent wake of Seung-Hui Cho’s actions at Virginia Tech. I’d already been thinking about this topic weeks before the interview when: 1) Someone asked me if I were offered the role to play Seung-Hui Cho in a telepic, would I take it? (read my answer in the article below) and 2) When I noticed the press kept trying to find leads behind Cho’s actions based mostly upon his ethnicity.
Some drew conclusions that he must’ve seen the Korean film “Oldboy” because he was once photographed violently wielding a hammer like the film’s main character. Others, like Republican, Pat Buchanan ‘brilliantly’ theorized that the main reason was that Cho was an immigrant and therefore secretly hated America to begin with. He wrote:Almost no attention has been paid to the fact that Cho Seung-Hui was not an American at all, but an immigrant, an alien. Had this deranged young man who secretly hated us never come here, 32 people would heading home from Blacksburg for summer vacation. What was Cho doing here? How did he get in?
Cho was among the 864,000 Koreans here as a result of the Immigration Act of 1965, which threw the nation’s doors open to the greatest invasion in history, an invasion opposed by a majority of our people. Thirty-six million, almost all from countries whose peoples have never fully assimilated in any Western country, now live in our midst. Cho was one of them… But are we really a better, safer, freer, happier, more united and caring country than we were before, against our will…So according to that op-ed, I suppose just in case — every immigrant should just be sent back, right Senator McCarthy? (Seriously, who the hell puts these kind of lynch mob fueling people in places of power?)
Anyway, then it got me thinking about James Kim. When the story broke and they found his body, I noticed almost none of the press articles mentioned that a Korean-American Man did this heroic act. He was just a guy who
worked at CNET. And I thought it was so cool – the fact that race didn’t have to be brought into it. But on the flip side, I wondered, “If race wasn’t brought up in regards to a heroic act, why is it now the only thing to be put up to scrutiny when it’s in a negative light?” Where’s the balance?
Read the article below, it’ll bring up some interesting conversation/debates. In the end, my personal view
is that violence in Film/TV in any form (to the images that are in the “SAW” movies to Jerry slamming a rake onto Tom’s toes) is not going to go away — and censorship is never the way to go. Ultimately, my wife and I are going to have to be trusted to keep up our end as responsible parents to be that filter and moral compass as to what gets seen and heard by our daughter — and to sit her down for a reality check when those images do slip though.
Unfortunately there’s just no way to police that every parent will do the same (ie: keeping them away from the Grand Theft Auto games) or a guarantee that things will still not go as planned despite the best upbringing when they grow up and make their own decisions.
Angry Asian Men — By Jeff Yang, Special to the SF Gate




Comments (131)
That’s a lot to read, but I’m Asian and I’m somewhat feeling the racial backlash that was bound to emerge.
i have alot to digest from this post… it’s given me alot to think about, thank you for this point of view, it seems very insightful and concise considering the subject matter
well written… i’m glad more people are writing about this… i’d write but i suck at it… the truth needs to get out… the media always distorts reality so much…
I wish they would stop referring to him as the Corean killer. He was a man who killed people, who murdered. A murderer. A student in dire need of help but didn’t seek it. The inclusion of the ethnicity stigmatizes the action just that much more, as if it’s a trait exclusive to Asians.
No further comment is necessary. In the same way that you can only do your best to raise your child to know the difference between what’s real and what’s imagination, it’s a challenge for us not only as Asians/Asian Americans, but all Americans to take responsibility to do the same.
This can easily start by serving in communities where you can break down racial lines because then, you’re not just a member of an ethnic group. You become a neighbor.
That’s a really good point. I never really thought about the heroism of James Kim and his ethnicity not being mentioned, yet when it’s a negative, it was all about race.
HOLY CRAP….with all the bull, Pat Buchanan spits out, I don’t know why I am still so surprised to read stuff like that. thanks for posting.
People just love to hate. Well, actually people love to have powerful emotions, but in the PC world we dwell in today, powerful emotions are usually limited to some vicarious imitation derived from the entertainment media. The bleeding hearts and artists … the Hollywood actors, tell us how hatred and violence is so wrong, yet they portray those very things in their movies. So, give us a bit of mob hysteria, a common enemy, and suddenly our hatred is ‘Okay.’ It is especially easy if our enemies looks different from us, then we can readily identify and condemn them. When a young, blonde haired, blue-eyed mother kills her two preschoolers by setting the house on fire with them in it, the neighbors say things like, “She was always such a nice girl, I can’t believe she done that.” Give that same young mother almond shaped eyes and black hair and suddenly it’s, “Well, I never did trust her, she was Chinese, y’know.” (Note: ‘Chinese’ being hillbilly-speak for anybody of Asian heritage.) Of course, at some point everybody gets to be the problem. Everybody, that is, except me. Nobody is going to blame the Scotch-Irish, French-Indian heritage of mine for anything I do.
Did you know the hammer that they found in that Fort Bend kid’s bedroom…was a RUBBER one?
Basically he had a wooden bed and was using it to hammer it tighter.
They also had a few decorative swords (some of them wooden/bamboo) hanging in their house and the cops listed those and the RUBBER hammer as 6 “weapons.” Which they all came in without a search warrant, btw – as the mom felt she had nothing to hide.
Only good thing for them was that they didn’t search the kitchen where they might have found some *gasp* KNIVES or the garage and found a HOE, or something!
This kid was a top student who had already been accepted by the Marines…when he got railroaded by a lynch mob of paranoid parents and school board cronies looking for PAYBACK against Asians! He wasn’t antisocial or on medication. He had no real risk factors other than…being Asian. Whatever happened to a fair investigation and “innocent until proveb guilty?”
It’s always astounding how ready people are to dissociate others from their own group. How easily we forget that the first people to shoot up their own school in a major media event – Columbine – were white.
I wonder what Buchanan had to say about that.
I followed your link to Pat Buchanan’s article and I don’t think I have ever, EVER been so angry because of an article in my entire life. The man is a bigot and obviously not very intelligent, as he talks about history and heritage without even acknowledging that Native Americans aside, every type of person in the United States has an immigrant background.
That said, you bring up so many good points in this post, and the article is excellent.
I enjoyed reading this. Im glad this point has been made, you know just how to say it! haha
good points, thanks for writing. also, i hope you don’t mind my saying – loved you in tru calling.
asian guys get treat way worst then asian girls
i don’t know if asian guys get worse treatment than asian girls… they certainly getting a different kind of humiliating treatment. the stereotypical asian man is asexual or impotent, unable to assimilate, full of nerdiness and intelligence (which should be a good thing, but that only furthers the idea that asian americans don’t need any help from anyone, which means that their economic and social troubles get ignored). prime examples: jackie chan and jet li. the stereotypical asian woman is oppressed by the asian man, exoticized by men of other races, obedient/stupid, and oversexed. man, look at all the stereotypical asian women in american media: lucy liu, gong li, michelle yeoh, bai ling. i hate being not only underrepresented, but poorly, incorrectly represented!
parry, i am hoping that you would help break the stereotypes. we need real asian american role models out there in the media.
Every person who blames violence in media and entertainment needs to go point their finger in a mirror. With the VT case, the real culprit is the complacency of society and the unwillingness of people to admit they are part of it. How was Cho, someone with a confirmed mental illness, allowed to purchase not one but several guns? And why was he released from the mental health centre in the first place, to “seek his own treatment”?
Personally, everything about this incident makes me sick – not just the shootings.
I just happen to stumble across ur page, it’s interesting that James Kim also crossed my mind after the VT shooting, people will always remember that it was a korean who shot and killed 32 people on a college campus, but no one will remember that it was also a korean who sacrificed his life trying to save his family.
Perry, I don’t want this to sound condescending, but irregardless
of your talent and ability, you may be way too adorable to play
a scary mass-murderer.
Mind you, you’re a genius, so I don’t think that it is beyond your level of skill,
but old ladies do stop you in the street to pinch your cheeks —
little children ask you to walk them to the potty —
drunk rednecks give you hugs and carry you around the bar as a babe-magnet —
bluebirds flutter to your shoulder and sing to you, and small animals crowd around your feet –
need I go on?
very well stated, sir.
thank u for posting this article.
The fellow at VT was a “sport” a one-off and it has nothing to do with his status as an immigrant. The problem is the system that doesn’t allow information about dangerous people to be passed from one office to another. He could not be dealt with by the university or any other authorities until he actually killed people even though he was known to be a dangerous person for some time. The nonMoslem Asians who immigrate do not seek to remold America into a mirror of their homeland as do the atinos or to replace our social and government systems with a 7th century barbarism, Sharia. They do not tax our medical and welfare systems.
tl;dr.
I have no different opinions of asians after the incident. crazy people are crazy. it doesn’t matter what race they are.
that being said, don’t try to victimize yourselves. I won’t have any patience for you.
it will be years before we see a difference
so… whos got the footnotes?
nice entry.
Great entry on the backlashes of the VTech shootings on the Asian American community. I cannot believe Pat Buchanan said what he did… and this ignorant, blatantly racist pig of a man got elected? I realy wonder about people today. Great, eye opening entry.
huh.
Wow, this was a insightful entry family! It’s refreshing to see asian americans bringing up significant issues and voicing their opinion. In moments like this, asian americans have to perservere through the adversities. No one said life would be easy. All the negative connotated sterotypes mainstream society fabricated of Asians is just part of the price to pay to live here. But we must remain and calm collective so we can conjure up an antidote to remedy the issues. We can’t be infuriated and lash back at society for misconnstrued conceptions because that shiet we’ll be used against us. Instead, We should use our brains to be thoughtful so we can reciprocate to society that there’s alot of fabricated falsism coming out of the media even if it means explaining this to one individual at a time. It might take awhile but in the long run it”ll pay off. Alright ya’ll..keep the heads up..be smart…
I’m sorry to you and all the people who have to put up with this type of racial trash. Maybe they ought to take all men and lock us up, since it is almost always men who do the violent acts in our society. It makes about as much sense!
Good Luck!!
very insightful & powerful post! thanks for an intelligent read. it’s disturbing how the nation is reacting to this incident instead of pulling together …
Albeit ignorant, Pat Buchanan does have a right to his opinion. Of course, when you’re involved in politics — comments like that really don’t seem appropriate. I’m Korean American and I agree that racial backlash was bound to happen thanks to the ignorance running amuck in America. However, I don’t think it right of you to isolate one man and one opinion. Pat Buchanan is not the spokesperson of anti-Koreans (or asians) everywhere. I think he’s wrong in taking this particular opportunity to slam immigration acts in this country, but he’s not changing anything. Shame on you, an actor who “[brings] humanity to [your characters] and [illustrates] their flaws” for not understanding that.
the shooter was more american than korean. he spent his formative years going to school in the US (8-23 years). it would have been great if the media noticed that more.
I’m definitely subscribing to you. I like your viewpoints in this entry.
there are always labels put on everybody. thanks for the article. very thought provoking.
u know your stuff
thanks for the insight, gave me another perspective into the reality we face
Thats how America is. Cho is labeled crazy for his act of killing and a psycho. What he did was wrong and he should have not killed. But do understand what he said in the interviews. He is tired of these White american preppy kids just being laid back falling on there parents trust funds and all this racist things that happened to his family and him. Even the media is racist to him. If it was a white kid they are just labeled as having bad childhood or parenting. Talk about some fucking bullshit. Thats America for you.
I used to live in Asia. It’s funny how different Asian people treat foreigners or settled immigrants different compared to the people here in US do. Caucasians are usually treated with respect over there.. but the same respect doesnt seem to be reciprocated to Asian/ Latino/ African American immigrants and citizens here in America…especially when tragedy happens How sad is American culture…
eyeopening entry. thnx for posting
REDF
I am an American living and teaching in Seoul. This whole event has a different ring for us here. While we mourned for ALL Americans, we were initially shocked and somewhat confused by the announcement that the shooter was Korean, living in America. Suddenly it meant for those around us, and for us that no one wanted to claim him. We certainly didn’t because he “came to our country,” while the Koreans around us didn’t want to claim him because “he immigrated as a child – he left here.” It was interesting to have conversations with my Korean colleagues, as well as people who approached us on buses and in the subway wanting to know “how you feel about shooting in America.”
Perry, I do not know you or your work, but I will be investigating it further for I am impressed by your insights and the time you took to post this. Thank you for giving me yet another perspective for my simmering pot of thought on this subject. Coming home in August for a furlough, we will be taking with us all the thoughts we have had to process away from our countrymen and then re-process them again at home. Having a large bag of perspectives will help that process in innumerable ways. Blessings…
Asians are disproportionately represented within the media. You’ll also find that every minority race is disproportionately discriminated against (Blacks and Hispanics in crime report on the news) or under represented (Asians & Indians in TV sitcoms). But, you know what? Fuck it. I’d rather live in America then in Korea any fuckin day. If I gotta put up with a little bit of racism then that’s a small price to pay for freedom.
i quoted you. THANK YOU THANK YOU. been thinking about the same.. you put it into words better than i could have.
I’m glad the media is kind of over the VT massacre… Now it’s about Paris Hilton going to jail.
wow… i was actually in the middle of writing a paper for my “Asian Americans in the Mass Media” class and I decided to take a xanga break and found this on the front page. it’s funny cus in my paper I actually analyze “Better Luck Tomorrow”. Well, if you’re in the bay area, “The Slanted Screen” is going to be playing on KQED tomorrow at 10pm. it’s a documentary about how Asian men are portrayed in the media… and now i have to finish writing my paper. boo.
hey, this is an awesome post. i read the link to Pat Buchanan’s opinions. Wow, what a bunch of bullshit. I pray that noone reading that is believing it.
I have noticed much of what you said… I was especially horrified at the actions taken against innocent students after the v-tech incident… America needs to take responsibility for what goes on in their schools and not try to brush off what occurs with ethnicity… I know the education system there sucks, I went through it… who knows if it’s better or worse than anywhere else, but it doesn’t matter, it still needs to be improved
In response to itsthebeancurd (6th post on this page): Thanks for comment.
Although I respect your opinon — I do think it’s very right of me to point out when a public figure makes such dangerous statements. As a individual who has sought to be our president twice AND was senior advisor to three Presidents AND political analyst on MSNBC, a lot of people in this country listens to what he has to say. And that’s dangerous when he says things that even you admit, ‘he’s wrong in taking this particular opportunity to slam immigration acts in this country’ – I beg to differ when you say he’s not changing anything because words like that can fuel dangerous/violent actions.
In fact, I think it’d be irresponsible for me to NOT bring it up to my readers on my own personal website, where I’m entitled to my own opinion just like good ‘ole Pat. Donchathink?
amen my brotha!
Don’t worry, there are enough intelligent (non-Asian) people out there who realize that Cho’s ethnicity had nothing to do with his decision to do what he did. And for those who think he did it out of hatred for America, I guess you can count the Columbine whities too, huh? People need to stop speculating. Aren’t there more important things at hand, such as the towns recently submerged by floods?
Pat Buchanan can suck a ****
I’m sorry if that makes me seem rude and uneducated. I guess that’s how strongly I feel about it.
Wow I am not Asian…but I have a deep appreciation for the Asian community, and what Pat Buchanan wrote really angers me. It was like reading something from the era that he was actually talking about- from about 1965.
As if getting rid of all the ‘aliens’ would solve every violent problem.
Man I could go on a tyrade, but thanks for bringing that to my attention.
Later
I just wanted to say that even though the media has pushed things in the direction that they did, I have never thought about Cho doing what he did because he was Asian, nor do I look at all Asians thinking, will they be the next to kill. I did not feel that way about a particular race when 9/11 happened. I wish others could keep an open mind and understand despite the media.
What he did had nothing to do with his race. I am not Asian, I am white, his race is just a detail. It’s not a fact, his culture didn’t have anything to do with this. He was a mentally ill individual stuck in a system that chose to ignore the signals.
I am sorry for the stereo typing. Sometimes fear brings out stupidity.
What a great entry.
A lot to read but I think you made valid points. However being in NYC and living in a predominantly Asian American environment has so far prevented any backlash from affecting me. However, I know of people who were scared that the shootings were going to give Asians a bad name and will be spreading this entry to them.
I also agree with warrenyatesfan that you are just too adorable to play the VT shooter.
Pat Buchanan is a loser with no education, just like most typical Americans who still believe that North America is somehow the land of origin of the white man. And it’s ok somehow to brush off the genocide of the native aboriginals. No wonder everyone hates the US. They are greedy hypocrites who hide behind the words of freedom and democracy. Down with colonialism, the US Empire will fall!!
Hey,
I think Cho Seung Hai was being mean and evil to all of the innocence victims in Blacksburg, VA and he had to kill 23 people and more people over there in Virginia Tech College School Campus for a reason because it is his bad idea to murder all those people like that all of the students’ parents and professor and teachers and faculty and staff and even the principals were so upset to see their own students died and got killed by that Asian kid name Cho Seung Hai ! I hate that Asian kid name Cho Seung Hai and right after that the stupidest thing that the murder asian kid did right after he had killed of these students in Virginia Tech College School was that he use his gun and shot himself instantly for a reason or for no reason too! It all happened during Monday the terrible tragedy massacre attack though too! I feel so sorry and so bad for all of those victims students at Blacksburg, VA died like that! I give all of my god blessing to the victims who had lost their own lives and prayers in their own hearts and soul up to heaven and rest in peacefully too! God Bless them all ! may your heart and soul live up peacefully too!
i just don’t even know what to think with cho. the way the media handled it isn’t surprising sadly – that’s the way the news is and people are always looking for the easy excuse for the reasoning of his hate. and that’s more sad to me.
james kim is such a hero though. the man is strong, loving and he died trying to save his family. that is a man
wow insightful post…. thank you
Good post!
Hello There
Nice blog!
We are not living in the perfect world. Discrimmation will never go away — it is up to us to fight the fight! Thanks for speaking up =)
I wrote back to Buchanan, as well as to many Op-Ed pages. It’s a shame though. Even as an Asian American fighting back with words, I am ignored by the media because they don’t want to highlight the other side. In light of APA Heritage Month, we’re still reminded, that no matter how many contributions we make, we’ll always be marginalized by where our parents come from or what our skin color is.
Huh, I wonder if Pat ever considered the extreme economic benefits we’ve accrued from the invastion of Asians. Yes, Pat, if you think of all the things we wouldn’t have had, I’d say we are “better, safer, freer, and happier”.
And here I was, ignorantly thinking that our classrooms were teaching our students the lessons of history. How wrong I am!
Nicely put together. This will no doubt be the issue of the century, this topic of violence and it’s effect on our society. As for Pat Buchanan….on be have of the Christian community I want to apologize for that comment. This isn’t the first nor I feel the last time we will here his faulty rhetoric. He has damaged the Christian community too many times.
This was, by far, the best coverage that I’ve found on the backlash since VT. Thanks!
that was an enlightening and beautifully written article…it mirrors many of my own opinions and expresses them in ways that i could not articulate. As Asians (and people of color), we are racialized and so are our actions. Unfortunately, America seems to have a fascination with the negative images, actions and people. They exemplify each incident as a trait of our race. I hate to use language such as “them” and “us” but it is hard to when we are so blatanly marginalized. I am happy to see such coherent and honest articles such as this one, especially when it makes the front page of Xanga! Keep up the good work (on your writings, exposure, and acting)!
as much as the stereotype of the ‘scary, angry black man’ is now being fought (all right, at least in some circles) i wouldn’t think we would allow the relegation of asian men to the ‘halls of scary.’ i think they made a big point of his first victims’ “blue eyes” and typical “caucasian beauty” and to me, it reminded me of the archaic line of thought that black men want to victimize white women in particular. which is suprisingly still a common, if subconscious thought.
anywho…nice post, i was waiting to see something like this.
u, are crazy gorgeous!!!!! ever thought about modeling!?
I’ve commented on the vtech shootings one too many times. I don’t plan to extrapolate to much on the topic. But anyone who has seen oldboy wouldn’t make the comparison to Cho. That’s just foolish. Their life of the character and the life of Cho have absolutely no lay over. Furthermore, while I do think that the main character i Oldboy is an iconic antihero with true depth and approachability…and that, possibly, Cho did shoot that individual photo because of his reverence for that character…it doesn’t make the movie any more irresponsible than people who wear white suits and gold rings because of scarface, or a black tux because of the godfather, or slick back their hair because of Good Fella’s. Violence is as American as Apple Pie and blaming movies is the act of fools who try to place the United States in a violence free vacuum. As if we couldn’t learn the same violence from books on American history? We can learn genocide from Columbus and the early settlers, murder and political corruption from the prohibition era, and we can become militaristic by simply learning about any war that the US has ever fought. I agree, Cho was an American product, not a Korean product. He had been more assimilated than Senator Buchanon might think. Only, the assimilative path he took, is not the one that we approve of. But if everyone assimilated like he assumes…he wouldn’t have a job, now would he?
I’m most offended by the argument for assimilation. That crap pisses me off. But that’s another post for another day. I may blog about it some other time. But certainly not right now.
You made some excellent points in this post. Thanks for reminding us the heroic act of James Kim, it’s sad that the story didn’t get much coverage in the news (at least here in the northeast).
is this a dissertation? ;-P
I don’t watch tv, so I’m not sure who you play on tv, but I am Asian, and of course I got “the looks” when I went out that weekend. I live in a predominantly white community, and it has its perks when I go to cash checks because everybody knows me. I like to talk and laugh, and with the Korean thing, nobody will ever be able to forge my checks. Anyway, I had a rotten childhood, adopted by two white people. You name it, they did it. However, I never fantasized about killing anyone, or revenge, or any of that stuff. You have to choose what to do with your experiences. They can make you a stronger person and you can help people with your experiences, or you can grow bitter and sick. It’s too bad the media plays the race card. He was a sick young man. I wonder if more people had befriended him, perhaps he wouldn’t have looked over the edge and jumped.
sorry if its off topic but sorta to lighten the mood, this kinda reminded me of the top 10 list over at gamefaqs today of the top 10 manliest game characters. not really angry but whatever.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/top10/1135.html
The MAN always trying to keep people down. Divide and conquer.
great collective breakdown of current events…media really needs to stop focusing on the similarities and shine the light on the differences…if you really compare cho to other asian americans, you will find that he’s probably had a very similar lifestyle to most first and second generation adolescents growing up in the US…what sets us apart is the means we take in order to stand up for what we believe in…the link they try to make between him and his ethnicity is ridiculous…he’s spent most of his life living in the united states…the famous quote “monkey see, monkey do”…HELLO you don’t even have access to a gun in the Republic of Corea until you goto the army…ever wonder why most of the movies that come from that region are about gansters fighting with bats and shanks instead of guns???because they are unfamiliar with guns to begin with…not even police carry guns…to blame it on our culture is just obsurb…as an American citizen i do take pride in our country, but it only goes so far…everytime i visit outside of the united states i get a similar response from local people…your just another “lazy american cowboy”…lets break that phrase down a bit…lazy, fattest country in the world eating our shitty fast food daily…american, arrogant fool who thinks they’re the best of the best…cowboy, thinks he’s too cool or too gangster to be touched or questioned about his motives…
all i can say is, when i heard it was an asian that did it, i was like, “grrreeat…” (btw, i’m asian), but asian men are not angry – i think we’re raised to not ask questions and to be in a way passive. I’m very passive aggressive when I come to think of it and I wish I wasn’t so much that way. I think we should try to break that barrier, because that is not always true.
Yep, that’s some crazy stuff. And now it seems like ancient history already. The following day after Virginia Tech, numerous threats have been by students similar to Cho and his actions. I actually had a professor walk into a classroom, claimed that he had a bomb in his briefcase, then pulled out a test. There was no sensitivity what so ever to the event or the people affected by it. He was fired btw.
Pat Buchanan is an idiot. I hope he goes bald forever. I read the article. It was so general and accusing. As if people don’t commit crimes everyday. Why don’t we ever accuse people of being good? That happens everyday too.
word.
Darn it we need an asian Al Sharpton (or something like that). WE need an asian who will actually speak up. Just the fact that the media, (especially the American media) think that there’s a connection between a soppranos episode made 3 months before a school shooting done by an “asian” shows their stupidity, and illogical sense to automatically hook race up with something like this. Pat Buchanan is an idiot to even think it is because he is so-called “not american”. Heck he’s been here since he was about 8, and that’s long enough to integrate into American society. I highly doubt that he was ‘harboring’ anti-american thoughts, in fact he was most likely feeling anti-social thoughts, and probably needed someone to listen to. But just the fact that everything’s being pointed at race now is dumb.
Perry please stand up and be our Asian Al Sharpton, or something like that? ^_^
whoa all these positive comments and only 2.3 stars? that doesn’t make much sense to me…
thanks for posting this; it’ll be great if you keep writing more about asian american issues and how your career is being affected by mainstream views. surprisingly (or not), not many people know about asian american troubles.
thanks for responding on my xanga in addition to your own. i appreciate you taking time out of your busy schedule!!!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and the post from Angry Asian Man.
It’s amazing how prevalant racism is, but we still ignore it.
nice entry. dont know what to say. i know what. i have a asian friend. and she like my best buddy. brianna is so cool becuase asian poeple rock. asian poeple rockz u know. that means that u rock.
~gaby
Great entry. it amazes me that people in power can say whatever they can because they’re not of “color.” I think Asians have come a long way in America, these little setbacks will only make us stronger.
Wow I can’t believe I’m leaving a comment for an actor in the new guy.
Anyways, I might have something intelligent to say.
Popular culture constantly needs to invent something new, which is not news. There probably needs to be a shift in the depiction of an Asian, which is not international headlines neither. I mean, there definitely needs to be a way popular culture responds to what people want to see. And unfortunately, the raged Asian is what America wants to see right now. Because the safe, sane, geeky Asian computer engineer that can’t reverse his car was soo last season.
There has to be something about the orient? You know, serial killers, mail-order brides, hung-up communists and suicide bombers.
Trust me, 50 other million people have probably said that already. I live on the other side of the world. I work in the media and I know what it feels like. If you’re not prepared to run a crap story, someone else would. If you’re not prepared to be held responsible of something “incorrect”, they’ll just remind you that you need this industry more than they need you.
Anyways, thanks for your post.
((Very, very good entry. As soon as I’d learned of the incident on the day it happened, I just knew that there would be some more racial problems.
But I hadn’t imagined that it would be distorted so radically. It just blows the mind that people focus on one thing rather than the big picture and miss what the point is. So there’ve been a lot of “aliens” that had committed crimes – does that mean whites don’t committ crimes? Does it mean that “True Americans” are a perfect group of humans?
What about the Columbine incident? Last time I checked, the two were white. What, so are they gonna argue that they only killed a portion of the number of victims Cho had?
So?
A crime is a crime, a body count doesn’t matter. Think about it, someone shoots up several people. Alright, news, discussions, all the sort. Now, another person only targets another, by stabbing them countless time in the torso, and they decide to burn the body. So what does that say? Multiple victims, anger – quite a bit. Single victim, anger – kind of bad. Now check it. Multiple victims, one dead, three wounded, anger – substantial. Single victim, brutally murdered, desecration of body, anger – ridiculous.
You really see why some foreigners more than often say “Stupid/Crazy Americans.”
This is crazy. I thought racism was done a long time ago. And what is up with Pat? In fact, what the hell is wrong with him? I guess we can’t really help being a minority in an ever increasing population of goons and boogers. I’m Asian and I find the whole thing outrageous. Ignorant buttholes(slams fist on keyboard)!!!!!
hi. yeah the same thought popped up in my head when i read an article about “oldboy” being a big factor to the massacre in va. I was furious.
I gotta be honest. I haven’t seen any of the films you were in, although i have heard of “better luck tomorrow”. I’ll make sure to watch it sometime soon.
I wanna ask you a big favor though. Do you think you could tell me some things about the film industry and how your life has been as an asian actor? I have a passion for movies and i just love actors! I know that you’re busy, but if you have some time to spare, could you drop by my site and leave me a brief comment? thanks very much, it would make my day/week/year/maybe a future.
oh man… that entry is long… at lest you… made your point..
I never noticed the race factor in James Kim’s story either. This post brought up a lot of interesting points. I never heard a big emphasis on the unabomber or the columbine shooting in terms of race(guess it didn’t matter whether they were part Italian, German, or whatever). When it comes minorities, murder is not just murder, it’s seen as an act of terrorism.
I agree to your point about James Kim. No one mentioned he was Korean American for his heroic act. The first time I heard about VTech Shooting on CNN, first accusation they made was he was Chinese and then he was an exchange student just because he was Asian. Sad but true. A killer is a killer no matter what race they are. That is what they should focus on.
Indeed insightful and thought provoking.
Parry Shen,
I really enjoyed your movie “Better Luck Tomorrow.” but I think I disagree with you. I think give it some time I think you would take the chance of being the VT shooter. For example, you guys renacted Tay’s death in better luck tomorrow. Think of what the parent’s of tay would think if they saw your movie. Get what I mean?
pat buchanan…tsk tsk tsk. it was nice being surprised by your face on brothers and sisters recently. you always seem to pop up out of nowhere. goodstuff
Good article ;D
i haven’t read this entry thoroughly, but i’ve went through your entries here. i’m considering about considering, after i consider some more, about becoming an actor (an asian guy, myself) and i appreciate all your hard work and how you’re sharing it here. it takes nothing to make criticisms, but it takes a life to make art. rock on.
i’ve never met an asian man who fights or likes to be physical altho i know there are. it’s not typical in our culture.
cool. i came here cuz you have the same spelling of name as my bf. i thought he was the only one who chose not to go by perry.
hey you’re hot. hahhahahha. i didn’t know you had a xanga. they should write an artice entitled angry white men or angry black men geez when you think about it, asians hardly ever do this kind of terrible thing. whereas other races do it everyday. they just don’t go on shooting sprees but they sure as heck kill a lot of people. and i would sure as hell have one or two crazy people going on killing sprees on the people they hate then killing themselves after rather than a lot of crazy people killing off one or two strangers at a time just for their wallets or purse. this white dominated media is so quick to judge minorities while pushing aside their own race who sleep with their daugthers and sons. i hate how they make others of a different race look so much worse than theirs. it’s like geez you retards there are crazy people everywhere.
I think the media and the general population arent used to seeing Asian cultures as just another culture. The American thought is that everyone with some slanted eyes are either from Vietname,Japan, or China and all are the ‘same’ thing. I think the general pop. is used to Mr Miyagi and secret herbal recipes and incense and cant see Asian people as just another race.. Its mysterious to them, or they want it to be, so in order to rationalize what Cho did, they want to look at his race and make a connection there. It doesnt make sense to me to keep capitallizing on his race, because that had nothing to do with it. He was just a sad person who felt he had no options.
I dont know. I have so many thoughts on this, but I dont know the right way to present them.
Is Buchanan racist, or reasonable? I don’t care what your nationality is, if you’re a danger to others and not a citizen you don’t belong here.
you brought up a very good pt about race coming up w/ cho & not @ all w/ kim.
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That was the longest post ever!!!
But I definatly think that asians are no different than the rest of us! We are all people!
omfg i so feel you. A rather interesting topic. Now days racial acts are so judgemental (*sp) in this world. Race? I tell you. That topic makes me so angry. lolz. So where are you from?
So a new question: would any Asian-American actor ever portray Cho Seung-Hui in a biopic or TV movie? What would you do if you were offered the part?
Your answer was very right on point and well put.
incredibly well written and well thought out!
I just wanted to come back and add to my earlier comment, because I think some people misunderstood it.
#1 I am very sorry that our society has chosen to focus on the ethnicity of the killer instead of the fact that he was already ruled by a judge to be a danger to others.
#2 I don’t care where he was from, if he was a danger to others and not a citizen then he didn’t belong here (and if he was a citizen, he belonged in a hospital getting help for his obvious problems)
your just as same as any other asian american revealing the stereotypes that the average american has failed to see. You list how African Americans would get pulled over and searched through the car. I myself have been thinking about this subject and was planning on sending it to a newspaper or even a magazine company but me being lazy I never sent it. I feel and think that in our position there will never be an ethiopia where we can all live and smile about life. There will always be assumptions and even stereotypes. Asians are very smart we study a lot we do our homework… Why is there still so many asians driving busses and living on the streets? African Americans are seen as they steal and are very aggressive. Yet almost every race contain something so graphic as drugs or mass murders such as the VT incident. Mexican Americans are considered POOR, DIRTY, even though one of our senators in california is Mexican American. Stereotyping a certain amount of people isn’t right maybe considering all the amendments we have gone through should be more fair about it EQUALITY, FAIRNESS, and etc. What we solemnly want is never going to occur if some one with powerful hands and words steps in.
Violence Still everywhere not only in the movies, anyone can react different.
wow….
Dude Asians Rock !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this…I work in higher education and even the Asian American administrators have been hugely affected/impacted by this tragedy…very insightful!
All we need is another rich white girl to get kidnapped while vacationing on some tropical island to draw all the negative attention away.
wow a long entry dont hate me for not reading it all i’ll admit it because i have tired eyes today hehe, but idk like some points i agree with ther article and then some i dont, i fairly agreed to most things in the article, it is weird how people choose to look at it and say its a similarity because i wonder if it was a caucasian person would the similarity been seen or not. I didnt agree with your comment about Cho-Seung Hui status about whether he was an alien or not or if he was an exchange student, i dont really care i think that i want to focus more on environment, because whether he was a citizen or not, i think anyone put in a situation like that can possibly do that. Some people may survive it and get pass it but we dont know that for sure, because we dont all have the same levels of mental toughness, or the same levels of emotions. I dont think that citizenship has anything to do with it. I think that a lot of people regardless of race, have thoughts like cho-seung hui, i think that his actions should not be focused on his race or if he had mental illnesses, im almost shocked that NO articles what so ever really stress the students behaviors or even the teachers. It seems like what people dont realize that he was a victim to society, do you really think that even if he was an alien and may have some symptoms of mental illnesses, if he had friends, had no one pick on him was appreciated for his poetry, do you really think he would still commit the crime. In his film he only talks about how he was picked on how he felt, sure he mention about uniting people but he called them loners, and did not subject anything to race, or mental illness because it had nothing to do with that, im shocked that more schools are worrying about how students treat eachother or how articles arent wondering “if so many people knew he was depressed or emotionally sick, why none of the teachers even bothered to help him, what kind of teachers are these people” i know that in college teachers are less known to be personal with their students but still, shouldnt that still be a consideration, because if we looked at it, this tragedy could of been prevented. because even if he was mental, people dont choose to be born crazy mental, some people are born mentally challeged but not mentally violent. Sure some people may think im crazy for saying the things i am saying but i know from experience that society plays a huge role in why people do the things they do, even if they may object to something. If cho-seung hui was really a devil he wouldnt have killed himself, he knew that what he was doing was wrong, and he couldnt stand it, but he felt he had no way out, i can say with confidence that people will not do something that they feel is wrong, even if they say they know its wrong, no one will do it, if they feel they had another way out, either they believe its right or feel like theres no escape, and cho-seung hui, feel that there was no escape i would feel more worried if he believe that killing those people was a normal, acceptable everyday thing to do. Sure you need to accept something to do it, but doesnt mean he aceepted it all to completely believe its a good and the right thing to do, if he did he wouldnt care about what people thought and prob kept himself alive because what would he have to feel guilty or bad about. I dont know just my point of view. Yes i do agree that it was sad how race is sometimes only mention in terms of acts of violence when it comes asians, i want to believe that its because they dont want our audience to see only race and to praise someone just on race for doing good deeds but i know that sometimes its because they dont see it, they dont see that hes korean, but if it was something negative, they see it, and to be honest i dont know why they do it. However this year in a long time i saw my first article in a long time, how a crime was commited by an asian man but was not stated that he was asian and i wouldnt have expected him, when i heard of the crime commited i’ll admit it i expected it to be a caucasian man because usually if it was an asian they would of stated it but when they presented his name i knew he was asian, its funnie because it made me realize maybe i myself am prejudice, but was i born that way, was it my choice, it was just because we are shaped that way by society to be a certain way or get used to a certain way we think that, and if me being asian can happen to be that way, i wonder what other races might feel once they are exposed to crimes being commited by asian people enough, is rascism going to raise among other races and asians. As of right now i dont feel its that bad, even though i do feel its fairly bad now, but i can imagine how much more worse it can become to be if the world is shaped to believe in certain ideals or if we are customized to live with certain trends. But then again maybe we can do something about it.
ps. sorry for the long entry
I was in my physics class when a guy said “hey, where’s your guns?” and I’m a Vietnamese American female. thanks for writing about Vtech.
wow that a lot to read,but it was relly good,it was like reading a chapter book.
i read the whole thing! That’s an accomplishment in itself. I don’t have anything profound to say, just thank you for being a voice in the APA community.
no i wasnt talk about you i was talking about how they talk about it too, im saying that why should citizenship matter, whether hes a citizen or not
ps thats why i said the article instead of you hehe i had a feeling u might think that so i pointed out that i was talking about the article
Thank you for posting this article, as I was actually curious as to how Asian guys would be portrayed by the media and how Asian guys themselves feel about this. As a Korean-American student, I was really affected about the shootings. Luckily, there has been little backlash in school and where I live, probably because my school is 60% Asian, and caucasians are considered a minority in my area. It doesn’t hurt that most people understand his mental instability was within him, and not due to his video games, music, nationality, or whatever thing finger-pointers can pull out of their asses But the fact that his Korean-ness had anything to do with his awful crime is like saying apples can be oranges–No correlation whatsoever.
PS: Thanks for the Pat Buchanan link. It gave me a good laugh. And I like how he kind of neglected to mention Klebold&Harris, Kip Kinkel, and the Jonesboro teens, in his laundry list of killers.
Great thoughts. As a Chinese-American male, it disturbs me that the portrayal of an entire race (or actually multiple Asian races) can rest so heavily on one individual’s acts. It seems to be a trend to allow the Asian minorities in America to fade into the woodwork and take backseat roles in pop culture. I think this has something to do with the stereotype that Asians are considered “smarter” than the average American, and don’t need he positive publicity to succeed. Conversely, a “smarter” individual on a rampage against innocents is considerably scarier to the public.
This is cool! nice entry
As an Asian American in a predominantly white state (Indiana), I saw absolutely no racial backlash against the Asian community at all. I think it’s all just paranoia that’s uncalled for. Most people know the difference between individuals instead of stereotype – if more Asian people hung out with people outside their culture and stopped being so ethnocentric, then less of this would happen. We are just as racist and insensitive as the people we accuse – it’s ridiculous. Stop with all the racial identity already – we’re the human race.
bravo… superb essay. really well thought out and written. the world is weird.
it will never disappear. race is what defines us…… in good or in bad. This is something i don’t believe will ever change. but still ty for posting this article.
you covered everything that were needed to be said, thank you for such a deep and yet true in every single sense analysis.
btw better luck tomorrow is one of the best asian american movies
Nice one. =)
I agree on what you said about the Vtech shootings. Its just how the world is. By the way, great performance in “Better Luck Tomorrow.” There was a great cast, excellent story and Karin Cheung is amazingly hot! Come by my page and leave your comments.
notice that asian women don’t face same shit as we do, but yet they have all the media presence in this country