April 29, 2004
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$ THE MONEY – PART II – FILM/TV $
DISCLAIMER: Once again before I go into this, what I’m divulging is what actors can come to expect once they have paid their dues and have a polished technique that allows them to book the roles attached to these kinds of paydays. It won’t necessarily happen for everyone. There are too many people with false expectations and come into this business because of the monetary aspect and I don’t want to contribute to that. So with that said…
…for film and TV, the scale daily rate is usually $678/day. But as you work more over the years and are recognized for your work, your daily quote should go up $50-$100/day with each job. A week’s work on a show/film is about $3500.
For TV, if it’s a show on (CBS, NBC or ABC) and it re-runs in primetime, you’ll receive exactly what you were paid the first time you shot it, everytime it airs. Shows on FOX, UPN, WB are not considered major networks and the residuals on these networks blow chunks. I did a week’s guest spot in 1997 on an episode of “Caroline in the City”, an NBC show, and was still getting several $1000 checks years after it was in syndication. As opposed to a “Beverly Hills, 90210″ spot in 1998, a FOX show, and you know that 90210 re-runs like crazy–I think I’ve seen maybe $200 TOTAL in residuals from it.
Here’s an interesting lesson I had to learn the hard way: When you book a pilot (a potential new show for the Fall season), they negotiate your contract for the next 7 years before you’re even hired — because if the show is a hit, they don’t want you asking for a huge raise once you’ve become a huge star and are vital to the series. I remembered when I was one of the final 5 choices for this role on a pilot and my agent called and said, “Okay, if you book the job you’ll be making $10,000/episode (there are 22 in a season), $13,000 the next year, and then a $2000/episode bump every year until year 7.” So, the next day as I looked at the other four actors in the waiting room, all I could think about was not my lines but, “Someone here is going to make $220,000 after today’s audition…not even counting residuals.” Of course, I choked. But I was casted for a smaller part on the pilot — and after all that hoopla and contracts, etc. – the show didn’t get picked up to be made into a series after the pilot.
Movies are something new I’ve recently gotten into in terms of the revenue. It’s nice because you get residuals from when the film plays on: Video, Dvd, Pay-Per-View, cable, airplanes, hotels, TV and overseas. And this process takes years for a film to go through-which means nice chunks of change every now and then from out of the blue. That’s why my residuals for ”The New Guy” (which was on everything) will dwarf those of “Better Luck Tomorrow” ‘s because ”BLT”‘s content kept it from being shown in hotels/airlines–just income/residuals that couldn’t have been taken advantage of.
However, since there is a lot more money at stake–it is a heckuva a lot harder to get roles on Film/TV as a result. In a commercial, it doesn’t really make a difference for the most part–generally a pretty/interesting face will suffice. That’s why newcomers have much more success with commercials. But with Film/TV, you’ll have to go through the casting director (1 person in the room), then to the producers (usually 4 people in the room), then the executives (10 people in the room), then testing for the network or screen test (25 people in the room) — all to make sure that the perfect actor is chosen because they’re bascially the studio’s investment.
Reading these last two entries back to back, it all sounds so “Hollywood”, shallow and ”Gordon Gekko”-esque – but at the same time, it’s fun every once in awhile to hear about the real gossip of this stuff.
Personally, I think hearing it also illustrates just how much money ridiculously flows through this industry simply due to a society’s value sytem and starts you thinking why can’t this system also apply to other professions that serve a much greater good–like teachers or parents?
Comments (34)
hey what’s up?! i have an agent here in milwaukee/chicago area, but i’ve never done anything big like a movie. hearing your perspectives in show business is really interesting ^^
hmmm with this kinda money that comes in, it makes me think… wait a sec, there really is no such thing as a poor TV/movie actor! I would imagine that the ones who are in theater wouldn’t make as much money, but the ones on TV/movies doesn’t seem to have it bad.
I think it’s great that you are giving the behind the scenes on the money side of the business for future actors, but I think you ought to make sure you don’t forget to mention that BLT couldn’t have been made if it tried to keep up with the big Hollywood boys/SAG rates. Sometimes the payoff isn’t financial. And I doubt you did BLT with any idea of making money. I don’t think I’d even know who you were if it weren’t for the love and hard work and sacrifices you and the rest of the cast and crew made on BLT.
Just one poor indie filmmaker’s perspective.
wow, that’s so informative, never knew how complicated the show industry is…thanx for shedding some light on it. good luck. i’ll be looking forward to your next role. btw. does any other cast member of blt have xanga as well?
wow, i think that’s really interesting.. i always wondered how tv actors got paid. i guess those kids in OC most likely aren’t getting the millions i thought they were! wait, that does air on fox, right? i dont watch it, but apparently it’s all the rave. but has anyone ever driven through OC without running into a single asian/asian american? anyway, i would have thought that fox was just as big as the other tv stations.. crazy crazy.
Hi Parry….very intresting stuff….haha…I’m, Eugene, just one of the people who met you recently at UIUC…
I think I mentioned this in the other post, but there were so many comments, so I dont know if you saw this, but Ive got some pics on my site of that night…
….and now I just scanned the school newspaper’s article of you guys coming into town…alright hit me back a comment on my xanga if you can…..later
Hey Parry, ;D
What’s up dude… it’s me, Andrew. Just wanted to thank you for coming to UIUC. Everyone keeps telling me that the event was a success, and I’m seeing lotsa pics of you and the guys on other people’s xangas. I feel so proud, hehe. Anyways, good luck with the rest of the university tours and keep in touch. We’re bound to meet up again after the L.A. premiere of Charlotte Sometimes and the UIUC event. Who knows, maybe I will have met Karin Anna Cheung by then, haha.
—Andrew =)
wow very interesting xanga… i should visit that tvb set some day! hahaha my uncle’s an exec at tvb satellite and i’ve never even seen the place, whoops. oh well, i’m more of a dancer…at least i’ve rehearsed dancing at tvb in those gigantic empty studios.
it’s pretty odd reading about the american system of pay. it’s such big money. a lot of intl school kids in hk model for press and get flat payments, but i’ve never really thought about how others in the ent industry would get paid. hhmmm
i like your idea about having a compensation system like that for teachers… maybe every time a student uses knowledge that I taught them, in the future, I could get a residual check… lol…
Wow. Even w/ better shows, those smaller networks DO blow chunks. o_O
Hey! Thanks for comin to UIUC to talk with us!!! I’ve never seen that Dell commercial, but I know I’ll be lookin for it~ Good luck with the rest of the university tours, and especially with your career~.. I have pictures posted up on my xanga.. please come n check it out~!
-Albert-
insightful…
teachers are taken for granted too often in our society =(
It’s so refreshing that you are so candid about behinds of the business. It’s very interesting stuff that we all want to know but too afraid to ask. Good luck with everything.
HEY Parry! first of all, THANK YOU for coming out to Virginia Tech and speaking to us. my friends and i got a lot out of it and enjoyed acting out your scenes. second: i loved Better Luck Tomorrow. i hope to see more movies like this with asian-american actors in 3- dimensional roles. THANKS AGAIN from Virginia Tech. i hope you can visit again sometime. good luck on all of you endeavors. PARRY SHEN, YOU ROCK!!!!
-art
p.s. very insightful xanga page.
hey!!! im readin all these “THANX FOR COMIN 2 UIUC!!” … … but wut about UIC!??!?! ahhaha come onnn!!! lol… well i like readin this stuff btw… its relleh koowul… wut do those extras that just stand in the backround make?
haha i got your xanga from a friend…gj in BLT bro…keep doin your thing in acting n such, gotta support an asian brother. haha take it easy, peace bro.
goodness! how i’d love to get a cash out of the blue. that’s pretty interesting, i love hearing about these industry workings.
Man, this is so great that you are telling us this on Xanga. I couldn’t make it when you came to UMBC, but it sounds like I missed one heck of a lecture on show biz (not to mention meeting you in person).
Anyway, very interesting insight for “the rest of us” to see and understand. The comment at the end is oh so crucial…sigh but pop-culture thinks otherwise
So THAT’S how it works. It’s not all fun and games, huh?
Hey Parry this is Nicole from Virginia Tech just wanted to thank you on behalf of all us Hokies for giving a great talk last night. We really appreciated you coming all the way out to Blacksburg, VA to speak to us, it really meant a lot to hear about how it is for Asians in the media nowadays. Keep up the good work. BTW those bobble heads of you and your wife are adorable
GOOD POINT!! and by that, I of course mean what you said about parents and teachers being professions that serve the greater good. teachers aren’t paid half as much as they should be getting paid… it’s really sad…. especially for myself, because i’m going to be a teacher within the next year, probably in hawaii… which is the state with the second lowest salary paid to teachers in the united states (with one of the highest costs of living!) =( however, i’m still planning to do it because i love the idea of teaching… but anyway i’m getting off the subject. another awesome entry from parry shen. ^_^ keep them coming!
aieee? PARRY SHEN! (ben was my favorite blt character) I cant believe you guys came to UIUC.. unfortunately i missed out cuz of an etiquette dinner (blah). please sign my xanga! hehehe.
p.s. i like your dell commercials.
take care!
<3 heidi
haha yeah like everytime i utilize something i learn, the teacher and parents gets paid in residuals. thanx for the information though; it really is helpful for those interested in business.
Hello Parry. This is Jeffrey – one of those millions of ppl who swarmed up to you after the UIUC discussion/forum on BLT. Glad you guyz could make it! (Tomorrow, my friends prolly wanna watch the movie again, so I’ll be watching it for the “third” time. =P)
And yea, it’s amazing how much money flows around in this business.
I wanted to bring up “The New Guy”. How did you personally come to terms with the role you played in the film, which was almost to me borderline offensively stereotypical Asian dork geek kid. Did you have any reservations? What was your thought process during the film or while reading the script?
Oh and your character from “The New Guy” was also bordering on the Asian male = Gay stereotype as well. How did you deal with that?
Thanks for the info, It not only helps me to know what to expect from the industry, it also allows me to work my instrument and give me motivation to try harder. My goal of being a successful actor is not easily obtained, and I’ll therefore try much harder.
~Oneazn2nv
heheh Parry i just saw your dell commercial for the first time >^ It’s the one where you don’t say anything, just get shown a couple times. i remember awhile ago you said something about telling you when it was showing… so if you still want that, it was on MTV this evening during a show called Dedicate Live.
“…starts you thinking why can’t this system also apply to other professions that serve a much greater good–like teachers or parents?”
i totally agree with you…it’s funny how sports players make millions of money yet, the real role models such as teachers struggle to make ends meet. however, i think it’s great that you recognize the good and the bad side money…i wish you nothing but luck in your work and your endevors!!!
sounds like i’d like to get into TV commercials. much easier money than slaving away to design websites sometimes…
lol..some of these comments are funni….=]’
At least you doing something you love and get decent pay from it.
i’m catching up w/ your posts
our teachers deserve more indeed.
Parry, what’s different about the “Director’s Cut” of THE NEW GUY?
Also (and if you’ve mentioned it elsewhere, nevermind), are you the upside-down weightlifter in the cereal commercial where the guy tells you “I just lowered my cholesterol”?
That Ben From Chicago